I can
appreciate how good a writer George Pelecanos is, but I never got into his
Derek Strange books because he spends too much time talking about cars and
music I know nothing of. S.W. Lauden’s new novelette, That’ll Be The Day, revolves around music I know practically
nothing of—it’s damn near about music
I know nothing of—yet I read it in a single sitting. Literally couldn’t put it
down. That’s some storytelling.
Steve
stopped by to dish about the book, writing, and music.
One Bite at a Time: We’ve discussed how much I like That’ll Be The Day, yet the more I think
about it the more things I find to like. Let’s start with the characters. It’s
often said of a book that no character is all good or all bad, but you pulled
that off in convincing ways I’d not seen before. Did you have the characters
sketched out in advance?
S.W.
Lauden: Thanks so
much for the kind words! It definitely helps that I played in bands
myself for many years and have plenty of personal experience to draw on. And
there’s something about a story of this length (17,000 words) that I find
easier to write than either short stories or full-length novels. There’s an
immediacy to the pace of the storytelling, but the end is always in sight. All
of that makes it easier (for me, at least) to focus on the characters.
OBAAT: Jackson Sharp is a man who can
hold a grudge. He wants the fifty grand he had to leave behind when he was sent
up mainly so he can afford to find and kill his father. He undergoes quite a
change by the end. Was that the point of the book when you started, or did
things evolve to there?
SWL: Music and fandom are the framework,
but I always thought of this story as Jack’s journey to accepting that his
dreams weren’t going to come true (at least not the way he once envisioned
them). Jamie has made a kind of peace with his shitty life and found ways to be
happy, but Jack can’t even see the point in trying. A big area of focus for me
was their simultaneous relationship with music and crime, because that’s
what’s in their bones. I wanted the guns and guitars to seem interchangeable to
some degree. I was also riffing on the proud history of battling brothers in
rock bands (like Ray and Dave Davies of The Kinks, Noel and Liam Gallagher of
Oasis, etc.).
OBAAT: Russell Patterson is as fucked up
a character as I can remember and in a completely unique way. I suppose people
as rich as he is can afford all kinds of off the path hobbies, but what gave
you the idea for his personal rock-and-roll memorabilia Hall of Fame?
SWL: Patterson’s definitely a piece of
work. I wanted him to embody an overblown version of ‘toxic fandom.’ With any
artform, there is always a small but extreme group of fans who take their
passion too far and kind of lose sight of the innocent reasons they connected
with something in the first place. He’s a shady (sometimes violent) businessman
with a very specific kink when it comes to music, but his outrageous collection
is really just an extension of his massive ego. The music isn’t enough for a
guy like Patterson, he needs to hoard important artifacts from the band’s
history and keep them to himself.
OBAAT: Having been a musician myself, I
think the reason I’m able to get past the fact I don’t know a lot of the music
in the book (I’m more of a classical and jazz guy) was because, unlike the
Pelecanos reference above, your musical references are more about the life of a
musician than the music. I don’t want to spoil a nice plot point, but I was
particularly taken by how Jack and his brother need to make a detour on their
way to a job so they can afford to do the job. Musicians live that way, one job
to the next. You came up with a creative way to show that while not lessening
the motion of the story. (Yeah, there’s no question there. Talk about it.)
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SWL: There was an earlier version of
this book (in my mind only) that was just going to be the two brothers driving
to the heist—kind of like a rock ‘n roll Waiting
For Godot or My Dinner With Andre.
I ultimately didn’t take the story to that artistic extreme, but I still wanted
to capture the mind-numbing delirium of life on the road. Bands tackle a lot of
the world’s problems while barreling down the interstate in the middle of the
night. They also get into pointless, heated debates about their favorite bands
and songs.
Then
there’s the musical genre that inspired this story. I previously published a
trilogy of books about a punk rock PI (Bad
Citizen Corporation, Grizzly Season
and Hang Time) that was more
aggressive, much darker and almost cartoonish in some respects because I felt that
embodied the punk rock lifestyle I had seen firsthand growing up. Power pop, on
the other hand, is melodic (sometimes jangly) guitar pop that includes
everybody from Raspberries, Big Star and The Knack to The Bangles, Fountains Of
Wayne, and The New Pornographers. Power pop bands are usually inspired by the
early music of 60s bands like The Beatles, The Who, The Byrds and The Beach
Boys. All of that’s a bit more nuanced than punk, especially hardcore punk. So
much of the tone, pace and dialogue was set by the music I was listening to.
OBAAT: Jack never wants to play again and
his brother Jamie doesn’t really want to do anything else, making great
sacrifices to allow him to keep his hand in. To me, the two brothers represent
an internal struggle a lot of less than successful musicians have within
themselves. Is that what you were going for?
SWL: You hit the nail on the head.
Music, especially commercial music, is mostly a young person’s game. It’s a lot
of blood, sweat and tears (hey, that would make a good band name!) that most
often leads nowhere. So it can be difficult to keep doing it simply for the
love of music, especially when it comes to lugging gear around and playing to
empty bars in middle age when you should probably be home with your family
and/or trying to achieve more reasonable goals.
OBAAT: What’s up next? Will we see you in
Dallas for Bouchercon?
SWL: Funny
enough (especially given my answer to your last question), I just recorded an album with some
good friends as The Brothers Steve. We
have a digital single coming out at the end of June. The vinyl album will be
available in late July.
I also
co-edited an essay collection about power pop with Paul Myers called “Go All
The Way” that will be released in October by Rare Bird Books. As you can tell,
I really love going down musical rabbit holes like this.
No
Bouchercon for me this year. I’m too busy with the book projects, the Writer
Types podcast, and music. That’s in addition to the day job and my amazing
family. Speaking of which, I should probably go…Thanks again for having me
back!
BIO: S.W.
Lauden is the author of the Greg Salem punk rock P.I. series including Bad
Citizen Corporation, Grizzly Season and Hang Time.
His Tommy & Shayna novellas include Crosswise and Crossed Bones.
A new novelette, That’ll Be The Day: A Power Pop Heist, was released on
June 18, 2019. S.W. Lauden is the pen name of Steve Coulter, drummer for Tsar
and The Brothers Steve. More info at http://swlauden.com.