Award-winning author
Frank Zafiro writes gritty crime fiction from both sides of the badge.
He was a police officer in Spokane, Washington, from 1993 to 2013, and retired
as a captain. He write police procedurals in his River City series and
Charlie-316 series (with Colin Conway) and the criminal side of things in his
SpoCompton series, Ania series (with Jim Wilsky), Bricks & Cam Jobs (with
Eric Beetner), and others. To date, he’s written more than forty novels and
done so much collaborating crowds gather demanding his haed be shaved..
Frank lives in Redmond, Oregon, with his wife Kristi, dog
Richie, and a very self-assured cat named Pasta. He is an avid hockey fan and a
tortured guitarist. (Editor’s Note: I can’t speak to Frank’s guitar playing,
but, as a devotee of the Philadelphia Flyers, he can also be described as a
tortured hockey fan.)
One Bite at a Time: Frank, welcome back. it’s always a
pleasure to have you. Next week marks the debut of your eleventh River City
book, The Worst Kind of Truth.
Tell everyone a little about this one.
Frank Zafiro: Thanks, Dana! Glad to be back. In The Worst
Kind of Truth, Detective Katie MacLeod investigates a pair of sexual
assaults, and struggles with all of the obstacles that come with these cases.
OBAAT: The Worst Kind of Truth is a bit of a
departure from its predecessors in the series. How is it different?
FZ: It’s the first time I’ve opted for a single
point-of-view. River
City has always been an ensemble cast of police
officers. As a result, the books all had multiple viewpoints. That generally
works well for a police procedural of this nature. However, I felt like the
series was beginning to suffer from too much sprawl… that is, too many
viewpoints. Too many spices in the soup, if you take my meaning.
For this book, I
tightened the story by sticking to one POV – Detective Katie MacLeod.
It’s an approach I
plan to stick with for the next outing. After that, I may allow a couple of
minor secondary viewpoints back into the series, but nothing like the way it
was in the earlier books. There’s nothing inherently wrong with how I did it
before, mind you. In fact, it was probably the best way to lay the groundwork for
the series. But now I can tell a tighter story because the foundation is
already there—I don’t have to establish it anymore.
OBAAT: You re-tooled the entire River City series earlier this year.
What did you do, and why?
FZ: River City has always been a big setting. I had the main
series, the spin-off Stefan Kopriva mysteries, four collections of short
stories, and three standalone novels.
I eventually realized that the larger story that I was
telling—the
River City story, if you will—wasn’t
necessarily getting through to all the
readers. Some read the main series and nothing else. As a result, there were
entire character arcs that the reader missed. Large (and small) events in the
canon that weren’t seen. And frankly, some books that were getting less
attention than I think they deserved.
So I merged all of the books set in River City into the
series proper. The only exception was the Stefan
Kopriva mystery series, which I think has its own style and is more
effective if remains separate. And a significant majority of readers make the
jump from River City to Kopriva anyway.
This process took some thought. Chronology had to be
factored in, especially in terms of where to put the short story collections.
But I think the current order of the books is one that will work for most
readers. Of course, it might confuse
some as well, since The Worst Kind of Truth is #11 and #12 and #13 are
already published. Also, books #14-18 in the series are still forthcoming, even
though #19 and #20 are also already published. This ordering was necessary to
keep things chronological. It will take me until sometime in early 2024 to
“catch up” and fill in those forthcoming titles.
Even so, the intention is that, if one were to read the
series from the beginning, the meta-story is much more complete.
OBAAT: My work in progress is a return to the private eye
genre, which will limit the focus of the book somewhat from what I’ve been
doing, as well as shorten it. (I think. It’s still a work in progress.) The
Worst Kind of Truth is also a little narrower in both scope and length, so
I’m curious. What brought about that decision and what was its practical impact
on your writing?
FZ: As I mentioned, I felt like the series was beginning to
suffer from too much sprawl—specifically, too many viewpoints. I routinely spent
time with each important event in the book through the eyes of the person I
thought was the best character to relate that event.
For this book, I tightened the story by sticking to one POV.
All of the things that would happen in a multiple viewpoint presentation still
occur in the River City world, but the reader gets all of it through Katie’s
eyes.
This creates a more concise telling, which was my goal.
As for impact, it forced me to find a way to show events in
short snapshots through Katie’s eyes in a way that allows the reader to infer
all of the story behind the event… without actually seeing it.
A good example (minor spoiler alert) is in the two events
that bookend The Worst Kind of Truth. There is a wedding early on, and a
retirement at the end. The journey of the couple getting married is chronicled
in great detail in earlier books. Same with the cop who retires at the end. If
I hadn’t changed my usual storytelling approach, there would have been multiple
scenes from the POV of these characters sprinkled throughout the book to tell
that continuing story. But since I’ve told enough of it already, what Katie
sees at both of these events is enough to let the reader know all s/he needs to
know about both of those story arcs. There’s no need for those additional
scenes.
OBAAT: You got a lot of attention last spring with your book
The Ride-Along.
Tell us a little about that one, how it came about, and what you wanted to
accomplish there, as it is also a departure from your typical stories.
FZ:
The Ride-Along was born of my dual frustrations
with both a public that isn’t very knowledgeable about police work (yet very
opinionated) and a profession (my own, prior to retirement) that isn’t very
keen to explain itself, and which is often its own worst enemy. I was torn by
my own knowledge of how hard the job is, how dedicated the overwhelming
majority of people are who do that job (and this includes support staff, too),
and how misunderstood the true realities of the job are by the general public…
while at the same time, I saw what I believe are strategic failures of the
profession, and a few outright bad acts that are difficult to reconcile, to say
the least.
These frustrations were exacerbated by the fact the no one
listens to each other. They shout. They speak in sound bites. If they listen at
all, it is to prepare a counter-argument.
So… I created a situation where two people have to
listen to each other. I put a police reform advocate in a patrol car with a veteran
officer on a graveyard shift. Two good people with very different views
spending ten hours in the close confines of a police cruiser… so, yeah, they
gotta talk. And sure, sparks fly. But they also end up listening, too.
Neither character is intended as a straw person for the
other to knock down. Instead, we were very intentional in being balanced in our
approach, making honest points from the perspective of each character. We
wanted to explore nuance in a fair way, since nuance is something that people
today seem to have little time for.
Neither Colin nor myself are full enough of ourselves to
think we can change the world with a book. But we do hope that it will give readers
some cause for thought. And that’s a start.
OBAAT: I introduced you as “Award-winning author Frank
Zafiro.” What did you win and how did that come about? ( could have said, but
it will be more fun for you to do it.)
FZ: I recently won
three awards from the Public Safety Writers Association. The big one was a
first
place award for “One Fine Day,” my short story that is included in
The
Tattered Blue Line: Short Stories of Contemporary Policing. It is set
in River City and explores the aftermath of the death of George Floyd, which
sparked actual events—both peaceful and violent—in Spokane (the real life River
City) that I drew upon for this story.
I also won second place for “Hallmarks of the
Job” (A Stanley Melvin PI Story) and honorable mention for “The Last Cop,”
which appears in the anthology To
Serve, Protect, and Write: Cops Writing Crime Fiction.
Awards are subjective, of course. But I was thrilled to win
these, especially since the awards for short fiction are judged blindly.
OBAAT: This is a standard closing question but one that’s
loaded for you, who has replaced Eric Beetner as the Hardest-Working Writer in
Show Business™. (Apologies to the late James Brown.) So, what’s on the horizon
for you?
FZ: After The Worst Kind of Truth, my next release is
my fourth SpoCompton book, Live
and Die This Way, coming in October. SpoCompton is a fun series for me
because it is, quite literally, the other side of the badge from River City.
This time out, my protagonist is a pint-sized female burglar trying to scrape
by on her wits while taking care of her addict brother. Aside from being the same
gender, she’s about as far from Katie MacLeod as one can get.
I’m fortunate enough to have a story in Josh Pachter’s
forthcoming anthology
Paranoia Blues, featuring crime fiction inspired
by the songs of Paul Simon. Mine is “A Hazy Shade of Winter.”
And by the time this interview goes live, I’ll be waist deep
in the fourth Stefan Kopriva mystery, which still bears the inventive title of Kopriva
#4. I suspect it will be out (with a much better title) in December or
January.
For those readers who like River City specifically, the
follow-up to The Worst Kind of Truth is on the docket after Kopriva, so
Q1 of 2023. If you find yourself jonesing for police procedurals in the
meantime, I’d like to give a plug for Colin Conway’s 509 series, or
your Penns River series,
both of which will scratch that itch.
Thanks for having me back!