Jim Nesbitt is the author of two hard-boiled Texas crime thrillers that
feature battered but dogged Dallas PI Ed Earl Burch -- The
Last Second Chance, a Silver Falchion finalist, and The
Right Wrong Number. Nesbitt was a journalist for more than 30 years, serving
as an editor and roving correspondent for newspapers and wire services in
Alabama, Florida, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and
Washington, D.C. He chased hurricanes, earthquakes, plane wrecks, presidential
candidates, wildfires, rodeo cowboys, migrant field hands, neo-Nazis, and nuns
with an eye for the telling detail and an ear for the voice of the people who
give life to a story. He is a lapsed horseman, pilot, hunter, and saloon sport
with a keen appreciation for old guns, vintage cars and trucks, good cigars,
aged whiskey and a well-told story. He now lives in Athens, Alabama, where he
is writing his third Ed Earl Burch novel, The Best Lousy Choice.
Jim Nesbitt: It’s an
old-school, hard-boiled crime thriller set in Texas and northern Mexico, with a
little bit of the decadent charms of New Orleans, a dash or two of Houston and
Dallas and a whole lot of the stark, harsh beauty of the desert mountains of
the Trans-Pecos country thrown in.
The main character is a cashiered Dallas homicide detective and private
eye named Ed Earl Burch, a saloon sport and ex-jock gone to seed with the bad
knees, wounded liver and empty bank account to prove it. He’s also deeply in
debt to his lawyer and needs cash -- right now. He’s desperate enough to take a
job from an old flame who burned him badly, signing on as a bodyguard after the
disappearance of her husband, a high-flying Houston financier who ripped off
his clients, including some deeply unsavory gentlemen from New Orleans.
It’s a simple job that goes wrong fast, plunging Burch into a ruthless
contest where nothing and nobody can be trusted. Money and sex tempt him to
break his own rules—twin temptations served up by the old flame, a rangy
strawberry blonde with a violent temper and a terminal knack for larceny and
betrayal.
Those New Orleans gentlemen give the game a more murderous edge by sending
two hitmen to reclaim their stolen goods and kill anybody involved in the
score. When his best friend gets murdered in Dallas by hired muscle, Burch
blames himself and grimly sets out for vengeance that also delivers a bloody
form of redemption.
OBAAT: Readers
love to ask where authors get their ideas and most authors reply with something
along the lines of “we’re tripping over them. The trick is to find the idea
that works best for me.” What made this idea worth developing, and how much
development from the original germ was required?
JN: I’m a
seat-of-the-pants writer and usually start off with a few very simple ideas
about who the main characters are, what kind of brier patch I’m going to throw
them in and what brings them all together -- in this book, greed and money
early on, revenge and redemption later. From there, I let the characters, the
action, the dialogue, and a keen sense of place drive the story. I write with a
very loose rein and am often surprised by the characters and dialogue that pops
up on the page -- where the hell did she come from and why the hell did he say
that?
For The Right Wrong Number, I
was intrigued by the notion of Ed Earl Burch being so desperate for money that
he’d take a job from Savannah Crowe, an old flame who burned him badly in love
and tried to frame him with the cops for a drug deal that went sideways. He
still hates her, doesn’t trust her but wants to suck up as much money as he can
from her -- to get out of debt and get a little payback. I wanted to see just how
far astray money and sex would lead Burch from the threadbare code he lives by.
That same question applies to an old adversary -- Houston homicide
detective Cider Jones, a mystic with Comanche blood who blames Burch for his
partner’s death and wouldn’t mind seeing him wind up dead.
I was also interested in developing Savannah’s backstory and that of her
husband, an ex-jock and financier named Jason Willard Crowe, a man with some
nasty clients he decides to rip off. Savannah is no longer the party girl and
small-time hustler she was when she dated Burch in Dallas. She’s flying in much
higher circles in Houston, part of a power couple who prey on the
coke-and-daddy’s-oil-money set. Until her husband pulls his disappearing act,
she doesn’t know he’s also laundering money for the New Orleans mob.
JN: Short
answer -- from my fevered brainpan.
We’re both bald, beefy, bearded guys who wear glasses and like saloons,
bourbon, Colt 1911s and difficult women who can tear your heart out. We both
carry a Zippo lighter -- Burch carries his to fire up his Luckies; I gave up
Luckies for cigars. I also hung up the saloon spikes and quit chasing women who
tote emotional straight razors. That’s why Burch has one more ex than I do.
We’re both terminal smartasses who don’t know when to shut up. Burch was a cop,
I was a reporter -- we both made a living by making people pay for
underestimating us. Burch doesn’t mind shooting people with that Colt; I never
have and hope I never do.
When I started writing the first Ed Earl book, The Last Second Chance, I wasn’t at all sure he would wind up being
the kind of durable character who could anchor a series. It was certainly what
I hoped for. I wanted him to be strong, flawed, reckless, cagey, cynical and
utterly human, a guy who has a code he sometimes forgets to live by but returns
to under pressure. I didn’t want him to be a Spade or a Marlowe -- I wanted him
to be more angst-ridden and tortured than those guys.
Ed Earl’s a little slow on the uptake, but not dumb. He’s dogged rather
than brilliant. And he sure isn’t supercool like Frank Bullitt -- he’s the
polar opposite of that. He’s Columbo without the caricature -- people he goes
up against think he’s slow and easily duped when he’s really pretty cagey and
lulling them to sleep. He makes them pay for that mistake. Sometimes with a
bullet.
What I wound up with in the telling of this story is a guy with whom I
think most people can identify. Ed Earl’s a bit of an Everyman who’s been
smacked around by life. A friend calls Ed Earl a classic American anti-hero.
I’ll buy that.
OBAAT: All the
women in your books, whether good or bad, are strong. What did you want to
portray with them?
JN: Exactly
that -- strength. A strong story demands strong characters of both genders.
I’ve always been attracted to strong, smart, sharp-tongued women who know
they’re smarter and tougher than men and aren’t shy about showing it. I find
them endlessly fascinating, maddening, alluring and sometimes dangerous.
They’re a force of nature to be reckoned with and I’m usually four or five
steps behind them on the uptake. So is Ed Earl. Women seem to like and love him
anyway -- for reasons I don’t fully understand.
OBAAT: You don't
pull back on the sex and violence. Is there any kind of line you don't cross
when doing this kind of story?
JN: Yes. My
books are bawdy and bloody, but the sex and violence isn’t gratuitous or served
up just for shock value. I’m writing a violent tale and want to be frank about
both the sex and the violence in service of that story. I don’t want to shield
the reader’s delicate sensibilities with euphemisms and sanitized scenes.
That’s an insult to the reader. Might be a different story if I was writing a
chicken-fried cozy.
OBAAT: What kinds
of stories do you like to read? Who are your favorite authors, in or out of
that area?
JN: I’m a bit
of an omnivore. I like history told with a literary flair -- James D.
Hornfischer is a favorite. I’ll read anything Larry McMurtry writes, although Lonesome Dove remains my favorite. I
like Elmer Kelton’s Westerns, although his masterpiece is The Time It Never Rained, set in Texas in the 1950s when a deep
drought scorched the land. It’s the story of a stubborn rancher who tries to
survive this crisis and still keep his independence. I’m fascinated by the
interplay between the land and the people who live on it and try to wrestle a
living from it. Kelton captures that perfectly. Hemingway’s short stories and
one of his posthumous novels, Islands in
the Stream, are works I’ll return to in order to rejuvenate my own writing.
The common thread here is all these writers paint vivid character portraits
and create such a keen sense of place that it becomes a character unto itself.
In recent months, I’ve been reading the early novels of the late Milton Burton,
who was just brilliant about setting his crime stories in the 40s or 50s
without making them sepia-toned nostalgia pieces. Check out The Rogue’s Game and see if I’m not
right.
OBAAT: Who are
your greatest influences? (Not necessarily writers. Filmmakers, other artists,
whoever you think has had a major impact on your writing.)
JN: I’m a
fiend for Raymond Chandler, Dashiell Hammett and Jim Thompson, so I’m sure they
provide some undertones to my writing. James Ellroy and Hunter S. Thompson are
lurking as well. But I’d say the biggest influences are James Lee Burke and the
late, great James Crumley, a vastly underappreciated talent. Not that I’m in
the same league as any of these giants, because I’m not. I come from a long
line of hillbilly storytellers who instilled in me a deep and abiding
attachment to family and place. Reading Burke reinforced that attachment and
taught me how important it is to writing a story. Whether his setting is Louisiana
or Texas, he makes those places come alive in a very visceral way. Crumley,
whose raucous crime novels are laced with whiskey, sex and drugs, taught me it
was okay to let it rip with graphic depictions of blood and debauchery as long
as it’s in service of the story.
OBAAT: Give us an
idea of your process. Do you edit as you go? Throw anything into a first draft
knowing the hard work is in the revisions? Something in between?
JN: I’m a
‘tweener. I tend to give each chapter a light edit after I finish and will
re-write passages that are clunky or just don’t wring true, but I don’t want to
kill off the spontaneity and surprise of a character who takes over the story
and drives it somewhere I didn’t intend to go because that’s often better than
what I had in mind. A character in my first book, Carla Sue Cantrell, is a good
example. I intended her to be a minor character, but she just exploded onto the
page as this tough and sexy redneck badass who loves muscle cars, high-grade
crank, the high-wire double-cross and shooting people. Louis, the New Orleans
hitman in my second book is another example. I started off giving him the looks
and style of a good friend of mine and wound up with this conniving,
cold-blooded and fully fleshed out character who is a driving force in the
story. He’s also a snappy dresser and nasty piece of work. More often than
you’d like, you run into a rough patch and the writing feels like chipping away
at a rock wall with a chisel and hammer or you’ve got a logjam of ideas and
scenes and words. The only way out is to just plow forward and get the words on
paper to see what you’ve got. You can break out the chainsaw later.
OBAAT: If you
could give a novice writer a single piece of advice, what would it be?
JN: Research,
research, research. Facts are a writer’s friend. I learned that the hard way as
a young journalist with the bad habit of trying to write my way around things I
didn’t know. The bullshit cliché is a writer should write what they know.
That’s just the starting point. You need to expand your knowledge and hone your
writing chops by finding out the answers to things you don’t know and reading
other writers who are better than you. That knowledge gives a tremendous power
and authenticity to your writing and, in a counter-intuitive way, frees you up
so you can really fly.
OBAAT: Is there
anything you wish interviewers would ask about more? Some topic you’d like to
see writers discuss more in forums such as this?
JN: Readers
want to peer inside a writer’s brainpan and see how we think -- get a glimpse
of the creative process and learn as much as they can about the why and the how
of what we do. They’re not interested in whether you check every box in the
template of Chandler’s The Simple Art Of
Murder. Their questions are more meat-and-potatoes than that. Why did Ed
Earl shoot that guy in Chapter Seven? Why did you kill off one of his ex-wives?
I liked her. Why do your books have so much graphic sex and violence? What is
it about West Texas that fascinates you? Why does everybody sound like a Bubba
in your books, even the women? That hitman reminds me of my grandfather -- did
you model him on anybody in your life? We call it dialogue, character
development and sense of place, but if you strip away the jargon, you’re
answering questions the readers want answered.
OBAAT: Do you
have a favorite quote about the writing process?
JN: Hemingway’s
line to F. Scott Fitzgerald: “Write the best story that you can and write it as
straight as you can.”
OBAAT: What are
you currently working on, and why does it kick ass?
JN: I’m
slogging my way through the third Ed Earl Burch story, The Best Lousy Choice, and I’m trying to make this one more of a
whodunit. In terms of time, this one takes place just a year or so after the
nightmare ride of The Last Second Chance,
which has left Ed Earl with a bad case of the PTSD jangles. He’s a train wreck
who self medicates with whiskey and Percodan and only seems to function when
he’s got a case to occupy his mind and help keep the demons at bay. He’s still
in debt to his shylock lawyer, Fat Willie Nofzinger, and is forced to take on a
divorce case out in the fictional West Texas town of Faver, named for Milton
Faver, one of the pioneer ranchers of the Big Bend country. Ed Earl hates
divorce work, makes him feel like a slimeball who can’t hose himself down with
enough whiskey to get clean. But he gets the job done and is about to leave
town when he gets into a gunfight with two sicarios
sent to kill the owner of the used car lot where Ed Earl is dropping off a
rental. That brings him to the attention of the outlaw cousin of a prominent
rancher who has been killed in a barn fire that may not have been an accident.
The cousin hires Burch to find out whether the rancher was murdered because he
doesn’t trust the crooked county sheriff, a tough-talking ex-Texas Ranger with
his eye on the governor’s mansion and his hand out to the drug lord just across
the river. The rancher has also ticked off some Houston developers who want his
land, an outfit with a reputation for terminal payback. Everybody’s a suspect,
even the cousin, and more than a few of them want Ed Earl dead because he’s
poking his nose where he shouldn’t. Lots a gun play, lots of sex, lots of
snappy patter and lethally picaresque characters. And Ed Earl couldn’t be
happier because he gets to do something he hasn’t been able to do since he lost
his gold shield -- investigate a murder, a case that might just get him killed.
Why does it kick ass? Hell, son, it’s Ed Earl run amok in the West Texas brier
patch again.
1 comment:
"Nice interview of a nice guy." I think Scott said that back to Hemingway.
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