Joe Ricker is a former bartender for Southern literary
legends Barry Hannah and Larry Brown. He grew up in southern Maine and has
lived in Alabama, Mississippi, New York, and New Mexico. Ricker spent several
years travelling the country with his dog and working as a cab driver,
innkeeper, acquisitions specialist, professor, lumberjack, ranch-hand, and
strip-club bouncer. He lives in Reno, Nevada, where he hikes daily with his
four-legged partner in crime. His new book is Some
Awful Cunning, from Down & Out Books.
One Bite at a Time:
Tease us about Some Awful Cunning.
One hundred words or fewer.
OBAAT: Ryan
Carpenter works the flip side of witness protection and helps prospective
convicts slip off the radar. Where did you get the idea for this unusual
occupation?
JR: I’d gone
through a bunch of personal and professional setbacks that were really
frustrating. I thought a lot about just saying “fuck it” and dropping off the
grid, so I moved back to Maine and started working in the woods cutting timber.
I worked all winter and decided to take it up a notch by taking a road trip
from Maine to the west coast because I’d never been west of the Mississippi
except for some Army stuff in Fort Lewis. I was camping in Alamogordo, New
Mexico, and there was a crew of prisoners cleaning up the campground. That was
the start of it. From there, the idea took shape and it went from wanting to
disappear to writing about a guy that helps other people disappear. At first it
was a character who helped people escape persecution, but evolved into him
helping anyone who wanted to escape. Battered wives, prostitutes, bikers, etc.
Basically, Ryan Carpenter helps anyone who needs to get away from where they
are or the situation they’re in and start over.
OBAAT: As your
bio shows (I will have included it above) you are the quintessential
“well-traveled author.” Was it your intent to move around so much, is that just
how things worked out, or is that Witness Protection you’re not supposed to
talk about?
JR: After that
first road trip, I was hooked. I loved being on the road. I went back to teach
at Ithaca College for a couple more years, but after continually being turned
down for a full-time position, I decided that life would be better on the road.
I thought about how fucking stupid it is for colleges to encourage people to
take out student loans to get a degree so they can hire you to teach and those
same colleges pay dog shit. And then I realized that I was fucking stupid for
continuing to teach, so I went back on the road. I picked up work along the way
and I did some freelance writing, so I made enough money to survive, which is a
lot easier when you don’t have to pay rent. I loved the road. When I got sick
of a place or I didn’t like it to begin with, I went somewhere else. It was
insanely liberating, and it gave me more to write about, so it certainly became
my intent to move around as much as possible. I did that for two years until I
settled in Reno.
OBAAT: Who are
the primary influences on your writing? Were they people you set out to
emulate, or was it a matter of looking back one day and realizing they’d had
more of an impact than you thought?
JR: I’ve had some
amazing people influence my writing – some authors I’d only read and a handful
of writers I met while I was bartending at City Grocery in Oxford, Mississippi.
Flannery O’Connor and Raymond Carver were probably the two authors I tried to
emulate the most when I first started to make an attempt at crafting a story. I
fell in love with Carver’s prose, and I really liked how dark O’Connor’s
writing could be. When I started to focus mostly on crime fiction, Jim
Thompson, Craig Clevenger, and Will Christopher Baer became the guys I really
looked up to. Jonathan Lethem, too, was big for me. I walked out of a job at
L.L. Bean just to finish Motherless
Brooklyn, which I did while sitting in my car in the Bean parking lot.
In Oxford, I was fortunate enough to have some really great
people who not only influenced my writing, but showed me enough patience for me
to have the courage to get things on the page. Shay Youngblood and Cynthia
Shearer were instrumental in helping me discover my strengths, which were few
and often sparse. Tom Franklin and Ace Atkins took some time to help me figure
out what I was doing wrong and how to make those adjustments. And Barry Hannah
and Larry Brown were gentle enough to throw in a kind word here and there when
I asked a dumb fucking question about writing. My time in Oxford is always a
point of reflection, especially now that I’m getting things published.
OBAAT: We’re both
Down & Out Books authors. How did you get hooked up with Eric and Lance?
JR: That’s kind
of a sad turn of events. My first book Walkin’
After Midnight came out with another publisher. Jonathan Ashley,
another author with the same publisher, reached out to me at some point, and we
started talking crime fiction. When that publisher went under, Jon went to Down
& Out and hooked me up with Eric. Unfortunately, Jon died shortly after
that, so I never got to thank him for linking me up with them.
OBAAT: The
classic final question: What are you working on now?
JR: Other than getting
better at coloring in the lines, I’m doing some edits to the next two books I
have coming out with Down & Out and finishing up the prequel to Some Awful Cunning.
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