Joshua
Swainston has worked as a mechanic, merchant sailor, courier, loan shark, club
promoter, Ryder truck rental agent, McDonald’s grill cook, taxi driver, valet,
coffee roaster, wine distributor, psychologist assistant, UPS man, Disney Store
stock boy, and played Santa Claus. His short stories and flash fiction have
appeared in A Twist of Noir, The Frist Line, Revolt Daily as well as other worthy web sites. You
can keep up with him on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheTacomaPillJunkies. His self-published novel, The
Tacoma Pill Junkies, was released in February of 2013 and can be
found at tacomapilljunkies.com.
OBAAT: Where did you get this idea, and
what made it worth developing for you? (Notice I didn’t ask “Where do you get
your ideas?” I was careful to ask where you got this idea.)
JS: The Tacoma Pill Junkies started as a short story about
getting high. It was a way to reflect on those years when I was using. I had
written a scene with just the main protagonist and his buddies smoking OxyCotin
and bullshitting because that is what I had done for a time in my less
responsible life. The characters developed past the confines of the scene and
soon after I wrote in the love interest (Courtney Taylor) and the Tacoma Mall
workers’ rights stuff.
OBAAT: How long did it take to write The Tacoma Pill Junkies, start to
finish?
JS: Three years. But I didn’t set out to write a book
originally, especially one that anyone else might read. It was mostly to humor
myself. There was no urgency in getting it done.
OBAAT: What’s the back story on the main
character or characters?
JS: Reno Walch is struggling working class. He’s a night
janitor at the Tacoma mall, lives in a small apartment, and has very little in
his refrigerator. What money he does make goes to getting high. Throughout the
story Reno listens to NPR radio and does crossword puzzles, he does this in
part because it is cheap entertainment.
OBAAT: In what time and place is The Tacoma Pill Junkies set? How
important is the setting to the book as a whole?
JS: Tacoma is very important to me. It’s my home and I love
it. It’s a real person’s existence in the middle of the lofty west coast. Years ago when Tacoma was ravaged by gang
activity and unemployment it used to resemble parts of what Detroit looks like
now. In fact Harold Moss, a former Mayor of Tacoma, used to show pictures of
Downtown Tacoma and pictures of bombed out Beirut, you couldn’t tell the
difference. Since then it’s gotten better, T-town is pretty awesome with a
growing arts community. Some locals try to forget the grittiness of the past.
Others try to embrace.
The time
period is roughly 2002. Oxys were still heavily prescribed without much
regulation and the pharmaceutical companies hadn’t changed the formula to make
them hard to smoke.
OBAAT: How did The Tacoma Pill Junkies come to be published?
JS: The Tacoma Pill Junkies is self-published because I didn’t
know what else to do with it. I had written the book, then nothing. I felt like
it needed a life. So I looked into self-publishing. I didn’t know what I was
doing really, just leaped into it. The Christmas of 2012, I asked my entire
family for money instead of gifts to help support my publishing efforts.
OBAAT: What kinds of stories do you like to
read? Who are your favorite authors, in or out of that area?
JS: It seems like the stories I read the most are autobiographical
fiction (fictional memoirs). I get this term from my wife who has her MLIS
degree. The main writers I see on the bookshelf are Charles Bukowski, Hunter S.
Thompson, Spaulding Gray, Jack Kerouac, Henry Miller, William Burroughs, and
David Sedaris.
But my
all-time favorite books are, in order: 1)Cat’s
Cradle – Kurt Vonnegut 2)World War Z – Max Brooks 3) Geek
Love – Katherine Dunn 4) Lost City of Z – David Grann 5) Lullaby
– Chuck Palahniuk. Notice how none of
them fall into the autobiographical fiction category.
OBAAT: Who are your greatest influences?
JS: Spaulding Gray, Steve Martin, Mark Z Danielewski and
Charles Bukowski. I also get moving after watching Wes Anderson or Spike Jones movies.
OBAAT: Do you outline or fly by the seat of
you pants? Do you even wear pants when you write?
JS: I do wear pants when I write. Normally loose fitting
jeans.
I tend to
only outline for the next few scenes, but little beyond that. I like to work my
stories through my characters. They will write the stories themselves if I let
them.
OBAAT: Give us an idea of your process. Do
you edit as you go? Throw anything into a first draft knowing the hard work is
in the revisions? Something in between?
JS: I go in cycles. I’ll write a bunch then get distracted.
When I get back to writing, I’ll edit what I had done prior then pick up
writing again. At the end I’ll edit and have other edit. Sometime after, I’ll
edit again.
OBAAT: If you could give a novice writer a
single piece of advice, what would it be?
JS: Learn to love rejection letters, you will get many. I
keep all of mine in a folder.
OBAAT: Favorite activity when you’re not
reading or writing.
JS: Recently most of my free time I’ve been working on
Creative Colloquy. It’s an online literary magazine for the Tacoma/South Sound
Washington area. Www.creativecolloquy.com. I’m the current Editor-at-Large. The
main function of the site is to fortify the writing community in the area.
OBAAT: Which do you take to bed at night,
the money earned or the good review?
JS: The reviews from people who aren’t reviewers. Like when a
friend’s wife or co-worker says they like a part in my book. It means I’m
getting to real people. Recently I found that my book was listed on someone’s
OK Cupid profile under Interests. That makes me happy.
OBAAT: Would you stop writing if someone
paid you enough money so you’d never have to work again, on the condition you
could also never write again?
JS: Maybe. I’m sure I can find a loophole. Like dictation,
or build a hidden bunker somewhere where I could write in private. I’ve never
been good a following rules.
OBAAT: If you were just starting out, which
would you prefer: 1. Form your own indie publishing house and put your work out
in paper and e-book yourself? 2. Go with a small or medium traditional house
that offers very little or no advance, a royalty that is only a fraction of
what you'd get on your own, and also makes no promise of any type of publicity
push, keeping in mind that you also will lose the publishing rights for a
period, sometimes indefinitely? 3. Go with a Big Six or legacy publisher that
offers a larger advance, legitimate review possibilities, entrance to industry
literary awards, and exposure on the shelves of brick and mortar stores. Pick
one and say why.
JS: I think the majority of writers would love to go with
the Big 6 so that we could be financially stable enough to write all the time
without distraction. That being said, I like the niche I’ve found with indie
self-publishing. It isn’t always ideal, there is still a stigma over
self-publishing, and there is no money in it. But the people are genuine, you
can get a real connection to the small audience you build by yourself. You can
talk to the reader and find out about them, why they would ever pick up a story
about working class pharmaceutical addicts. You meet other writers
self-publishing and you make friends, build connections. I’m not looking to get
rich from writing. Of course the Big 6 would provide a broader audience, but
I’d be less accessible to them.
OBAAT: Beer, mixed drinks, or hard liquor?
JS: Newcastle Brown Ale
OBAAT: Baseball or football?
JS: Baseball – See Gorge Carlin or the opening monologue in Bull Durham by Susan Sarandon.
OBAAT: What question have you always wanted
an interviewer to ask, but they never do?
JS: No one ever asks, “Have you stopped taking drugs? And
why?” I think there is a social hold over from the Nancy Regan era where we
don’t talk about the social issues surrounding drug use on a personal level.
Either the reader assumes I’m still out there smoking pills or they think I’m
like Tom Wolfe, where I write about it as an observer, but is really just a
pussy.
OBAAT: What’s the answer?
JS: Yes I’ve stopped. 50% due to work urinary analysis. 25%
due to my family. 25% because all the guys I used to run with are in jail or
totally nuts.
OBAAT: What are you working on now?
JS: I’m the Editor-at-Large for Creative Colloquy (www.creativecolloquy.com). I’ve been writing a bunch of crime
genre shorts, I plan on continuing this. The next book is going to be about my first
deep sea sailing experience, I was a merchant mariner (sailor) for 10 years.
I’m also considering putting together a collection of short stories. So lots of
things up in the air right now, lots of projects. It’s an exciting time.
The
Tacoma Pill Junkies is available through Amazon in both paperback and Kindle
editions.
2 comments:
Big fan of GEEK LOVE too.
I'm a huge fan of Tacoma Pill Junkies and other works by JS. Great questions/interview, I normally wouldn't think about the quality of the questions, just the answers but these surprised me. Enjoyed much, thanks!
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