Tom Pitts is one of my favorite people. Even just to see
him pass by and exchange smiles at Bouchercon is a treat. His talent as an
author is a bonus, but that’s not to say it’s insubstantial. He has his own way
of pouring his life into his books without about his life, just letting his
experiences inform the writing as few can. His new book, Coldwater,
drops May 18 from Down & Out Books.
One Bite at a Time:
First, welcome back. I don’t keep formal stats but this is the fifth time you
have graced this site and I always look forward to getting a chance to catch up
with you. The Beloved Spouse and I aren’t going to Bouchercon this year—decided
well before all the coronavirus business started—so this will have to do for
this year.
Your new book is titled Coldwater.
Give us a two hundred word or less
description.
I can answer this one with a lot less than two hundred
words. Coldwater is my take on a real-life horror story. What happens when
regular people are pulled into a nightmarish pool of criminal quicksand.
OBAAT: Your books
tend to deal with criminals, usually drug-related (either users of dealers or
both), and sometimes cops. In Coldwater
you make a suburban couple the focal point of the action. What was it that drew
you to that bit of departure?
TP: I think the Everyman
facing insurmountable odds is a powerful theme, and very relatable. I wanted to
write something akin to Joe Lansdale’s Hot in December or Cold in July, but my own version. And in Northern California. And I
wanted it to play out in a few locations, not just San Francisco. I think the
suburban sprawl is under-represented in fiction. Gentrification has made the
big cities so banal. Where’s the hunger, where’s the struggle, where’s the
passion? In the burbs, baby.
OBAAT: I don’t
know of many writers who can make their stories as unique as you do. Knuckleball was a fairly straightforward police
procedural. Hustle tells the story of
two young street hustler addicts. Your previous book, 101, focused on the marijuana trade as legalization approached. Now
Coldwater is kind of a suburban horror
story. What is it that draws you to such different types of stories and what
kinds of adjustments, if any, are needed to write them?
TP: I grouped my
four novels together as a “Northern California Quartet” because I think they do have a common denominator. And not
just geographically. Really, what I wanted to do with Hustle is a realistic take on drug
addiction, which I feel writers often get wrong. With 101,
I wanted to do the same thing with the weed industry. With Coldwater, I wanted to capture my version of Sacramento. I want to
show the world the view from where I stand, especially on topics I still feel
like I have a little input on. My next book will be my take on the homeless
situation, which I don’t think people really understand. Not in an empathetic
way. I’ve been down in the trenches, and I want to convey what it’s like to be
living like an animal on the streets of a big city.
OBAAT: The only
thing I don’t like about your writing is that I get so invested in the
characters I want more when the book ends. Have you ever considered even a
short series? A trilogy, maybe?
TP: Weirdly
enough, I thought about it with this book. Mostly because I like the name
Calper Dennings so much. I started another book with Calper as the catalyst,
but it crashed at about twenty thousand words. But yeah, I’d consider it. I
better stop killing everyone off at the end of my book though.
OBAAT: What do
you do when you’re not writing?
TP: These days,
not much because of the pandemic, but I’m not kidding in the bio where it says
I’m trying to survive. Being on the bottom end of the financial ladder in one
of the priciest cities in the world doesn’t leave you with a lot of leisure
time. I work too much, I worry too much. Not really pastimes, but they do pass
the time.
OBAAT: We talked
last time about your love of the Bay Area, though you’re a Canadian native.
What part of Canada are you from and what was it that drew you to California so
this love affair with San Francisco could begin?
TP: The short
story is that I moved here from Calgary when I was 17 to play music. SF was
punk rock mecca in the 80s, a very different place. But the truth is, when I
was younger, my dad’s hockey team would come to Santa Rosa every summer to
play. On one day each trip, we’d drive down to San Francisco, do North Beach,
Chinatown, etc. And I remember being up near Coit tower, looking across at the
density of North Beach, and I thought, I’m moving here when I grow up. This is
America, this is where I belong.
OBAAT: You and
Joe Clifford go way back, well before you were writers. How did you meet and
how did your paths to becoming acclaimed writers vary? Or were similar? (I’m
going to ask Clifford these same questions when I get a chance. Get some Newlywed Game action going.)
TP: Now that’s a
loaded question. I really should write the story of the day we met, because it
was a perfect snapshot of our lives then. It started with a shot of dope, but
it ended with Joe attacking some guy in the house over a deal gone bad. But I
digress. Basically, we were both living on the floor of different junkie
scumbags who lived in the same flat—this horrific place we called Hepatitis
Heights—and Joe was introduced to me by this awful person named Skipper Nick.
Don’t get me started on that piece of work. Anyway, Joe was dope sick and bent
in half. I’d just copped a gram of junk and a half gram of coke, and I threw
most or all of it in a spoon and split it with him. Now, that’s a pretty big
fuckin’ dose, and trust me, nobody was sharing. It just wasn’t done. I don’t
know why I shared it with him, he seemed like a good guy. But that action
started a pact between us, we’d split whatever we had, money or drugs, and keep
each other well. You see, in Hepatitis Heights, it was a constant free-for-all.
Lying, stealing, begging, borrowing, pawning, whoring, everyone was out for
themselves. With me and Joe actually able to trust each other, it gave us half
a chance to survive.
OBAAT: We’ve both
been around long enough, and written enough books, that we can look back at our
books with a little perspective. Which of your books is your favorite and which
means the most to you? Doesn’t have to be the same book. I know mine wouldn’t
be.
TP: I think Hustle means most to me. Maybe because
it was my first novel, or maybe because the movie option made me the most
money, but I think it’s because there’s a lot of my personal experience in
there. But I think my favorite is 101.
I feel like, at least with pacing, I’m at the top of my game in 101. That said, readers seem like American
Static the most, so, who knows?
OBAAT: With Coldwater hitting the stores, what’s in
the pipeline?
TP: Absolutely
nothing. I’m writing, of course, but I’m not sure this next one is truly crime
fiction. And I’m not sure what’ll happen with it. It’s a book about a homeless
man in San Francisco who thinks he’s a prophet and the lives that intersect
because of him. I’m trying a very different approach, so we’ll see if it works.
Trying to push the envelope and create something new.
Thank you, Dana, it’s always good to talk with you. Hopefully
we’ll both be around for a sixth round.
OBAAT: Always a
pleasure, Tom. Come back any time.
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